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gph 4:57 Tue Oct 1
The female orgasm
(I didn't know that Prozac interferred with the female orgasm.)

Anyway, on with the C+P

Rabbits may hold key to solving mystery of human female orgasm

Study suggests climax may be an evolutionary hangover – but crucial questions remain

Nicola Davis

Last modified on Tue 1 Oct 2019 10.52 BST

A possible explanation for one of biology’s greatest mysteries, the female orgasm, has been bolstered by research showing that rabbits given antidepressants release fewer eggs during sex.

The human female orgasm has long proved curious, having no obvious purpose besides being pleasurable.

The scientists behind the study have previously proposed it might have its evolutionary roots in a reflex linked to the release of eggs during sex – a mechanism that exists today in several animal species, including rabbits.

Since humans have spontaneous ovulation, the theory goes that female orgasm may be an evolutionary hangover. They say the new experiment supports the idea.

“We know there is a reflex [in rabbits], but the question [is] could this be the same one that has lost the function in humans?” said Dr Mihaela Pavličev a researcher at the University of Cincinnati who co-authored the study.

To explore the question the team gave 12 female rabbits a two-week course of fluoxetine (trade name Prozac) – an antidepressant known to reduce the capacity for women to orgasm – and looked at the number of eggs released after the animals had sex with a male rabbit called Frank.

The results, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, showed that rabbits given the antidepressants released 30% fewer eggs than nine rabbits that were not given Prozac but still mated with Frank.

Further experiments backed the theory that the drug was affecting ovulation through a mechanism involved in copulation and entailing the nervous system, rather than acting directly on the ovaries or other routes.

The team said the results fit their theory that rabbits needed to experience something akin to an orgasm to have a hormonal surge and ovulate, although it is not known if it gives the animals sexual pleasure.

They also said their theory was supported by a previous finding that animals that rely on sex-induced hormonal surges for ovulation tended to have a clitoris – the organ behind the female orgasm – in a position that meant it was more likely to be stimulated during sex.

Pavličev said it remained unclear exactly how Prozac affected the reflex in rabbits, and that further experiments with other animals was necessary.

She added that even if the theory was right, an important question was why is the orgasm still there – could it be that it had acquired a different function, that there was a function on female health?

Elisabeth Lloyd, a professor of biology at Indiana University and author of The Case of the Female Orgasm, praised the study and said it offered support for the team’s theory.

She said questions remained, including whether the same muscles and nerve fibres involved in the reflex in rabbits were present in the female orgasm.

She also noted that ovulation and orgasm were linked to different hormones in humans, though it was unclear why – if female orgasm had its roots in ovulation – orgasms in men and women showed so many overlapping features.

Such features, she said, had generally been thought to support the theory that orgasm evolved to reward males for fertilisation, with the female orgasm simply a bonus arising from the way embryos of different sexes develop from a common form.

Lloyd and Pavličev said it might be that the theories could be reconciled, with one potentially explaining the origin of female orgasm and the other indicating why it still existed.

Pavličev added that understanding the role of female orgasm remained important.“Maybe it can direct a little bit more friendly focus on female sexuality rather than just being in [the] service of childbearing,” she said.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/sep/30/rabbits-may-hold-key-to-solving-mystery-of-human-female-orgasm

*tries to catch rabbit to borrow key*

Replies - In Chronological Order (Show Newest Messages First)

crystal falace 5:01 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
Frank's a lucky bugger

Moncurs Putting Iron 5:03 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
*Reads title*

No. Sorry.

Lost me there.

No idea what that is.

diehardhammer 5:04 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
SPLAT

riosleftsock 5:04 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
MPI

Something to do with Narnia I believe.

Moncurs Putting Iron 5:05 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
diehardhammer 5:04 Tue Oct 1

is that the noise it makes?

Darlo Debs 5:07 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
rabbits....coincidence that rabbits should be selected to study the female orgasm?


in other news Frank must be knackered.

gph 5:08 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
I read a kind of cultural parallel to this article years ago.

It argued that because the idea that women had to orgasm to conceive was widespread in continental Europe, men there paid much more attention to women's sexual pleasure, with the ulterior motive of getting an heir, than they did in Britain.

gph 5:09 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
An important detail I left out of the last post.

The article was talking about the Middle Ages and the Renaissance.

HairyHammer 5:23 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
All about mood for women and their minds, the brain that must be in sync with what they are doing where as men just need arousal and off they pop, that is my tuppence.

riosleftsock 5:26 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
HairyHammer 5:23 Tue Oct 1

I don't believe camels or goats can achieve orgasm.

Darlo Debs 5:34 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
i don't understand why pleasure in itself isn't a good enough reason...men just expect too much of us :-)

Far Cough 5:35 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
I don't believe camels or goats can achieve orgasm.

From personal experience, socko?

Moncurs Putting Iron 5:35 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
HairyHammer + Tuppence = Yukyukyukyuk!

riosleftsock 5:43 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
Far Cough 5:35 Tue Oct 1

Based on extensive internet research.

If you want practical advice, ask Hairy.

zebthecat 5:43 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
So true geeps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ivsb79-h90

Mike Oxsaw 5:47 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
Eggs!!??

Give a girl a good seeing to and you're guaranteed a full English.

Side of Ham 6:00 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
HairyHammer = What women want.

Debs or Nurse will confirm this........

Darlo Debs 6:08 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
just burnt my hand.....sex wouldn't be helpful

Westham67 6:12 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
Why would rabbits need anti depressants? a carrot crisis perhaps ?

riosleftsock 6:13 Tue Oct 1
Re: The female orgasm
Darlo Debs 6:08 Tue Oct 1

Possibly doing it too fast.

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